We know that Kim Kardashian is studying to become a lawyer. It looks like she's been taking solid notes along the way of her own divorce with Kanye West, who apparently made some interesting, although unsuccessful moves along the way in their split.
In this fascinating peek at Kim and Kanye's divorce, Beverly Hills family law attorney Limor Mojdehiazad (pronounced mozsh-duh-HIYA-zod) dishes with Modern Divorce podcast host Billie Tarascio on the strategic moves each spouse made during their very public breakup. How could they have done things differently, and would Kanye have gotten what he wanted if he had done things differently?
Listen in on this free-wheeling discussion between two family law attorneys to find out what you can apply to your own divorce process.
For divorce help in California you can find Limor online by searching for "@lawyerlimor".
We know that Kim Kardashian is studying to become a lawyer. It looks like she's been taking solid notes along the way of her own divorce with Kanye West, who apparently made some interesting, although unsuccessful moves along the way in their split.
In this fascinating peek at Kim and Kanye's divorce, Beverly Hills family law attorney Limor Mojdehiazad (pronounced mozsh-duh-HIYA-zod) dishes with Modern Divorce podcast host Billie Tarascio on the strategic moves each spouse made during their very public breakup. How could they have done things differently, and would Kanye have gotten what he wanted if he had done things differently?
Listen in on this free-wheeling discussion between two family law attorneys to find out what you can apply to your own divorce process.
For divorce help in California you can find Limor online by searching for "@lawyerlimor".
Billie Tarascio: [00:00:00] Hello, this is Billie Tarascio with the Modern Divorce podcast joined today by attorney Limor, I'm going to let you pronounce your last name.
Limor Mojdehiazad: Hi Billie. This is Limor Mojdehiazad.
Billie Tarascio: It's beautiful. Welcome to the show. Today's going to be fantastic. So if you follow me on social, then you, or maybe if you don't follow me on social, you may already know attorney Limor. You've got a huge social media following.
You are a family law attorney in Los Angeles, and you've [00:01:00] got great stuff on social media.
Limor Mojdehiazad: Thank you so much.
Billie Tarascio: Absolutely. And so we're going to talk about it. And she has done recently a ton of analysis and reporting on Kim and Kanye is divorce detail by detail, really focusing on what's happening in social media.
Limor Mojdehiazad: Yes. Yes. What I've done. And I think what's most interesting for the audience is that I look through the court docket, right? These people are putting things out on social media. And to me, it's kind of like, you know, let me see, is it part of the court docket or are they just blowing smoke to get something dealt with outside of court?
And a lot of the time that's what it is. Oh. Oh.
Billie Tarascio: So the dispute is not showing up in the court paperwork that we are seeing online.
Limor Mojdehiazad: Exactly. So most recently, you know, a lot of people tag me in articles that, you know, Kanye west is saying, I want full custody [00:02:00] of the kids because Kim always uses nannies to take care of the kids.
Okay. Well, let me check the court docket. Did you request full custody? No, you're just saying it. You're just saying that. Yeah. What,
Billie Tarascio: what I find so fascinating about this is, um, we have had. Inside scoop on celebrity divorces a lot of times, but never quite like this. So when. When you've got articles that are saying, you know, um, Kanye wants full custody.
I know that that's probably some text message that got shot off in some disagreement between parents who were trying to discuss their kids while they're going through a divorce and he shoots off, you know, well, I'm just going to ask for full custody and then, and that happens every day to our clients.
Every single day, every single day. And you know, I think in the celebrity world and most likely with Kanye west, he knows he [00:03:00] can't actually get full custody. So what does he do? Torment's her in the media, right? He just keeps tormenting her tormenting or to see what can I get without going to court? Cause I know I'm not going to win in court.
Limor Mojdehiazad: His attorneys have told him, please don't make us look dumber then we look, okay, we're not going to corporate full custody, but he'll do things like that. And, you know, I've talked about how, what he did with the school, how he revealed the children's school. Right. So, yeah, so we know that's a legal custody decision.
We know he said that they share joint custody, but we also know Billie that when parents get to an end pass, you have to think about, do I go to court over the school or. Can I do something else to get my way, because if you can't decide and one, one parent takes the action that they want to take. Yeah. It doesn't feel like joint legal custody.
It doesn't.
Billie Tarascio: no. And so let's just take a step back here so that people can understand what's [00:04:00] happened. So, first of all, what I don't know is where did the kids go to school before, or have they always gone to school in this particular school.
Limor Mojdehiazad: Always gone to this school. Okay.
Billie Tarascio: So they've always gone to this school.
The parties have temporary joint legal decision making. Do you call it that? They're in California.
Limor Mojdehiazad: We call it a temporary joint legal custody, which has decision-making authority.
Billie Tarascio: Sure. Okay. Um, and then at some point he decided he didn't want them to go to school there anymore.
Limor Mojdehiazad: And that's what it sounds like.
He says that it's a godless school. He's become more religious.
Billie Tarascio: Oh, isn't that always the case. Ridiculous to me, how often people become righteous and religious and that drives
me nuts.
Limor Mojdehiazad: Yep. Got that happens all the time. You're so right? Yep.
Billie Tarascio: Okay. So we've got. The kids in the school that the parents chose together that now is to godless.
Kim said, no, I don't want to move them. So what does he do? He doesn't go to the court to ask for a change of [00:05:00] schools because that would be denied. He instead just outs them and says to the public. Now, how did that go down?
Exactly.
Limor Mojdehiazad: So he went on a rant as usual. I think it was on a Sunday and he was just going and going and going.
And in the middle of the rant, like part two of the video, maybe he said, and I never wanted my kids to go to this school. Me and the men, this family never have a right to make any decisions. I got, you know, he even said something like, I got to ask Travis, if he had any say in this or Tristan, if he had any say in this right.
What your children have gone to this school - and they have four kids. They don't just have a one that kid. Right. And you know what we see on social media, we know that his daughter is in basketball. We know all these things. And to think you want to switch the school because you you know, you now believe in God or whatever it is.
Because of your own personal things. That's not the way it [00:06:00] works.
Billie Tarascio: So he outdid the name of the school. Half the children are the children's still going
there?
Limor Mojdehiazad: Yes. I believe that they are.
Billie Tarascio: Okay.
And do you think that he was intending to make their lives so miserable that he wanted to change schools? Or do you think it just slipped out?
Limor Mojdehiazad: Oh, no. I think it was very intentional. I think it was very, very intentional. Um, I think that he likes to create problems. I think that he likes to create problems and you know, it's very sad because you see. You know, he's spoken negatively about Kim, right? He said she did about vanity fair interview and she said something about working women.
Right. And, and he even said, you guys just got a small glimpse of the things that she says and the way that she acts, you know, that's not really fair.
Billie Tarascio: The piling on, I mean, it was an ill-advised comment, but she's been punished enough.
Right, right, right. And he prays these things up and [00:07:00] it's like, what is this going to get you.
Right. They
right. But you know, there's, there's the, he cannot help himself,
but wants to win.
Limor Mojdehiazad: Right. Right. And I think that, you know, you and I know, there's no winning in these scenarios. There's no winning. There's no winning.
Billie Tarascio: No. And, and Kim is in for, I think, a never
ending, high conflict situation. There's really nothing that she or the court can do to prevent this from probably continuing as is forever.
Limor Mojdehiazad: Yes. No, I don't see. I don't see an end in sight and you know, people always say, you know, it's 18 years. No, no, it is the rest of your lives. You're going to see each other at the children's weddings. They're going to have kids, you know, holidays, maybe one day you'll spend them [00:08:00] together again, which you know, who really knows, but no it's going to be never ending to be that.
Billie Tarascio: Does california have a presumption for joint custody?
Limor Mojdehiazad: Yes, we do.
Billie Tarascio: Okay.
Is she in the beginning? It seemed like Kim and Kanye were working fairly well together and had come to some agreements and which is a beautiful and amazing. And that's kind of what happens many times when you've got parents who are used to co-parenting and they're, they're pretty good at it.
They've done it. They've done it. They're in the same house. They're there. Okay. They're on the same team. Even when they first decided to divorce, they can still do agree conceptually to stay on the same team for their children and then it all falls apart. So is the agreement that she came, that she came to for joint legal custody, permanent.
Limor Mojdehiazad: Um, right now it's temporary because they haven't resolved those issues. The only issue that's been resolved is dissolving their marital status, terminating their marital status. That's the only thing that they, that there is some [00:09:00] finality to everything else, you know, is temporary until they have a final judgment.
Billie Tarascio: Okay. So in this case, I would certainly advise Kim to get sole legal custody. Without a doubt, because I don't know how to even describe like the conflict will never end as long as there is the ability to create conflict. That's just the way this personality type
goes.
Limor Mojdehiazad: I completely completely agree with you.
And I don't know if you have an Arizona tie-breaking authority.
Billie Tarascio: Yes. So we can't. So that is called like final legal decision-making, but it's hard to get here. Is it hard to get in California?
Limor Mojdehiazad: Um, I would S I want to say yes, but I've gotten it in a lot of my cases where we all know. One party should have sole legal custody, but the court [00:10:00] doesn't really want to do that.
So they'll do tie breaking and we can even do carve-outs for just educational decisions, religion, right? Like you could be tie-breaking authority just for that one item. Um, so it's possible to get not a lot of people even know about it. That's the thing.
Billie Tarascio: Oh
really? People think it is either sole or joint?
Limor Mojdehiazad: Right.
Billie Tarascio: Okay.
And do you think under these circumstances that Kim is likely to be awarded or has she even asked for sole custody?
Limor Mojdehiazad: She hasn't asked.
Billie Tarascio: Well, why the heck not?
Limor Mojdehiazad: Listen, a lot of people have asked me that and I think that, I think what it is is they do not want to file the paperwork cause they know we're all watching.
Right. Um, and I think another part of it is. I think she knows that no matter what she agrees to, she's going to have all the power, right? We've seen it where parents will beg for time with kids. They'll beg for legal [00:11:00] custody, all of that, the one the other parent, you know, ask them and says, listen, we have new insurance.
We have to pick a new doctor. They send an email about all the doctor choices. The other parent doesn't even respect. Right. So then they kind of have sole legal custody, right. Or if, you know, someone like Kanye west asks for week on week off visitation and you know, he's not taking it, you know, he's not taking it, so maybe you sign off on it, you know, and, and, and you know that it's not actually what's going to happen.
Um, but I think that in this case, they're going to do everything they can to just keep it out of court.
Billie Tarascio: So I talked to Chris Melcher about that. He's also another attorney there because I am mind boggled that these things aren't sealed for the benefit of these poor minor children. And he said that that was very difficult to do.
Limor Mojdehiazad: He's right. He's right. So obviously our parentage [00:12:00] actions, when the parties are not married and they have children, those are obviously confidential because those, yes, because those cases are all about the children. So they're basically minor cases kind of think about it. So those are sealed. I can't even get.
Uh, I, you have to be attorney of record to even see a copy of something. And you know, when you have clients call in and they want you to take over their case and they don't want to sign the sub yet, for whatever reason and you know, those cases, I need to be attorney of record to get access. But when you're in a divorce, yeah, it's all public record.
You can stipulate to seal your case. Do judges sign off on those stipulations, I've seen it. Right. And you can also, we also, I think you can do this. You probably do this too. We can, you can file things with, you know, you can lodge them in the court. So just the front page, it's a public record. Um, but I'll tell you something, [00:13:00] a lot of these attorneys, I think with the high profile, this is just my opinion, but with the high profile cases, They want us to see what's going on.
That's what I think. Just my opinion on it. I think that they know that we're going to see it and they want us to see it.
Billie Tarascio: Yeah.
Um, I think it is tragic that this has not been sealed. And I think if, if, if unmarried parents have the, if those children have the rights to privacy, then the children of married parents should have the right to privacy.
Limor Mojdehiazad: Um, um, I'll tell you something. I have. I have the entire record and part of, one of the documents. I think it was the reply declaration. One of the exhibits was their prenup. Yeah. Why do I have a copy of their prenup?
Billie Tarascio: That's a private document. It shouldn't.
Limor Mojdehiazad: And I've told them, you know, I know, um, they redacted obviously the [00:14:00] schedules in the back. So I don't know the assets and
Billie Tarascio: Account numbers?
Limor Mojdehiazad: Um, but it's still part of the public record and there was no reason to attach the entire prenup. In my opinion, it wasn't a bifurcation hearing has nothing to do with the prenup, except that Kanye west was asking for certain terms that that Kim side was saying, this has nothing to do with the bifurcation.
And by the way, is this your way of telling us you don't think that prenup is valid? Like what is happening and whether it's intentional or not the fact that these people are going to court on these issues with all this money and all this power is ridiculous. I think it's ridiculous. You can resolve your entire case without ever stepping foot in court
Billie Tarascio: You havent been divorced have you?
Limor Mojdehiazad: I haven't been divorced.
Uh, Kanye will not come to any agreements, even agreements. He agreed. Even though he will not reach [00:15:00] you because he feels like he will be giving up some leverage by agreeing to something that he has
Billie Tarascio: no problem with.
Limor Mojdehiazad: Well, it's, it's, it's so strange to me and, you know, a bite, a celebrity bifurcation hearing, you can stipulate to that too.
What are you doing? But we all saw he wanted these ridiculous terms. I actually was surprised that Christopher Melcher was even representing him because. From what I know in the LA family law community, he's he keeps all of his cases. Private. You don't hear Christopher Melcher's name unless he's giving a seventh seminar a webinar, unless he's teaching other attorneys how to do, how to practice family law.
Right. He keeps things very, very private. So I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe that that, that he was his attorney, but Samantha specter, I understand she does a lot of celebrity cases.
Okay. All right. So let's talk about bifurcation. Cause I think that that was something that was [00:16:00] pretty confusing to the public.
So can you explain what that means and what went down?
Yeah. So a bifurcation is when you ask the court to separate one issue from all the other issues in the case, and kind of advance the issue litigated now and be done with it. Right. So they are. Kim asked the court to bifurcate the issue of marital status.
She wants to be divorced. She wants to be legally separated right now today. Right. And what we saw in the record was that she asked Kanye let's stipulate to bifurcate will be divorced. You know, all of the headlines will be they're divorced, they're divorced. Right. They're single now, which to the public looks like, wow, It took them a year there, everything resolved and they're all done.
That's what the public thinks. Right. We know. And we've seen bifurcations all the time and we know it's just really a marker of the marital status is terminated, but they have all the other issues to litigate, but [00:17:00] she went to court to get that because he wouldn't just sign on the dotted line. We all know why there are very, very few reasons a bifurcation wouldn't go through.
I mean, I, I've never seen one, not go through. Sure.
Billie Tarascio: Yeah. I mean, it's a no fault divorce state. If you want to get divorced, you get to get divorced, divide your property. Yes, we have to figure out child support and all those things, but you know, you get to be divorced if you don't want to be married anymore.
Limor Mojdehiazad: That's it. That's it. And I felt a responsive declaration asking for terms that, you know, make no sense to anyone, but he was asking to preserve his rights that would already be preserved. He was asking for her to not have access to her own money from accounts that she uses to pay her employees. Like . No sense, but it was, again, him trying to look like he's fighting for something, right.
And that he's being taken advantage of and he needs help and he needs protection one really. Now she was [00:18:00] just asking for a bifurcation and she's gonna get it. She got it.
Billie Tarascio: So what is the current temporary agreement? We know we've got joint custody. What is the parenting?
So we don't know, we don't know what it is.
We know it's joint custody because Kanye west posted that they have joint custody. He said something like, um, I think what he said was this is my first divorce. I don't know how joint custody works, but how do I get my kid off social media? That's how we know it's joint custody. What I think that the parenting plan is.
That the children live with Kim and visit their dad. Like maybe it says reasonable visitation or upon two days, you know, advanced notice or whatever it is, but we've seen him with the kids, she facilitates visitation, so.
Okay. So do we know if there's any support being paid?
There is no support being paid right now.
Okay. All
right. Um, And that probably will move forward, right? If neither of them need support on an interim [00:19:00] basis, then perhaps no one will need support moving forward. Is that, does that happen
very often?
Limor Mojdehiazad: So that is how you would argue it. Right. And in this case they've been now I think that that Kim's petition actually has a, to be determined separation date, but they are now divorced and there has been no support.
Um, and I do know that their prenups have. That there's a limit to the support and a limit to the duration now, child support. I don't know, but you know, people say now Kanye west is a billionaire. I think Kim also has maybe almost billionaire status. So if either of them pay support, whoa, I don't even,
Billie Tarascio: it would seem to me that it would not be worth it.
Limor Mojdehiazad: Well, so you and I went right to us. I
Billie Tarascio: mean, I mean, so from Kim's perspective, any. Any distance, you can get any issues that could be resolved. Anything that can remove conflict will make her life
easier. [00:20:00] Absolutely. Yes.
Non-conflict wants to stay relevant and wants to stay in front of him. So let's talk about his behavior with regards to Pete Davidson, with regards to showing up with flowers, um, many people have asked why doesn't Kim go get a restraint or. What's she qualified in
California?
Limor Mojdehiazad: So here's what I think.
I think she would qualify under disturbing the peace, because I don't remember seeing anything where he is threatening to do anything physical to her. Um, I know that a lot of people say there's, this is, this is emotional abuse. Right? They say that. Um, but here's the other side of it. You go to court. And what are, we're going to show.
If we're Kim's attorneys, we're going to show the social media posts. We're going to show the screenshots of text messages. I'm sure she has some voicemails. I don't doubt it. Right. We're going to show all of that to the court. [00:21:00] What would Kanye show Kanye would show. Looking at Kim social media, she seems unbothered.
She seems completely fine. She does not look scared at all at all. She's still doing business deals. She was in Milan. Signing signing her reply declaration before our bifurcation, she appeared in court. I was too facile to go to court. Cause I can't even bear to see her. I'm still dealing with this divorce, you know, I'm still dealing with the separation, right.
So I actually, and I've said this before, I only based on what we've seen, I am unsure that she would be able that domestic violence restraining order. What we've seen shows that she's unbothered now, the internet is not real life. It's only, you know, seconds, little glimpses. And she has, she has an entire persona to keep up with.
Billie Tarascio: And she's got pR people who [00:22:00] will present whatever.
Limor Mojdehiazad: Exactly. Exactly. Right. So I think the only way she would qualify as if she would say that he's disturbing her piece. Right. So if we can show, there are things she couldn't show up to, or, you know, when she's with the kids, she's it, she's too scared to have him take the children with him.
Oh. So you have to prove that she is in fear because of the disturbing, the peace.
Billie Tarascio: You couldn't get it for harrassment.
Limor Mojdehiazad: You could,
you could, but I, I don't, I don't think that I don't think that a domestic violence restraining order would be granted under harassment.
Got it. Okay. Now what about Pete Davidson? Do you think he could get
one? Um, so Pete Davidson would have to get, Hmm. People have asked me this too.
The problem here's the problem. Cause I just look at what would the other side argue? Pete Davidson released those text messages between him and Kanye. He initially seemed unbothered, but then what did Kanye West say? ? I [00:23:00] say, he said, oh, nice to see your back from the hospital and rehab, something like that.
Right. So, whoa, was that because of the BS that Kanye did online to Pete Davidson, right? Did he go to rehab or the hospital, or what did he have to deal with something because of what Kanye west has said online about. Then I absolutely think he would qualify for some sort of protection. I really do.
Billie Tarascio: That's interesting. So we have a different standard. Um, so in, in Arizona, I think Kim maybe able to get a restraining order under harassment, but I don't know, like we have to look at the outcome, like, what is that outcome? And does that really help her? That I don't know, but I think she could probably get one.
He Pete could absolutely get an injunction against harassment. He doesn't meet the relationship test, so he couldn't get an action, but he could get an injunction against harassment and it would not, we don't look in Arizona at what the purported victim is [00:24:00] experiencing. We only look at the behavior of the abuser in question.
Limor Mojdehiazad: Right? Right. Yeah. And you know, domestic violence, restraining orders, a lot of people say, I think at a temper, the temporary thing, it's very easy to get, show us as behavior when it's said. And honestly, you just, we need one line about how you're feeling. Right. But once you litigate, once you're litigating for that permanent restraining order, The burden is still low, right?
But if you can show that the, uh, that the victim, the purported victim of this harassment, or what is really unbothered and it's not affected them. Wow. You most likely won't get it. And people still think it's so easy to get domestic violence restraining orders. And to an extent it is. But at this point, these judges, they go deep.
They dive deep to see what is going on and, you know, Kanye west Kim Kardashians. She's still [00:25:00] letting him see the kids. She hasn't really responded to anything, which I think is the best way to deal with all of this. Right. Um, but maybe she could, I think that there are arguments against it, but again, we don't know what's actually happening because if that's what we see Kanye doing online, the flower thing you brought up, the flower thing, I kind of forgot about that.
A truckload of flowers.
That that alone maybe could get her a restraining order.
Billie Tarascio: It's an interesting situation. So it's her house, you know, it's her house. So it's potentially trespassing, but I mean, he, I don't know if he owns the house. He might still own the house.
Limor Mojdehiazad: No, he doesn't. He doesn't own that house. And the photo that we saw was not outside of her.
Oh, it was about
Billie Tarascio: maybe he didn't trespass
and injunction against harassment can prevent contact, but it can prevent social media posts.
Limor Mojdehiazad: Yes. And another thing that I [00:26:00] tell you that, that I let my clients. I understand this person is dangerous, is harassing you, is disturbing your peace has been physically violent towards you. All of that, but even with the restraining order, I need you to understand it.
It is a piece of paper. If this person has the capacity to hurt you and wants to hurt you, what I need you to do is put up cameras around your house, change all of your locks. Make sure the police have a copy of the restraining order, which they should have. Right. And you need to take extra steps to protect yourself, because do not count on that, that person abiding by the restraining order, do not count on a cop coming to your house when you called them, because this person has trespass and actually doing what they're supposed to do.
You need to take other steps, which is unfair. It's really unfair. These, you know, you need the protection, they should, they should respect a [00:27:00] court order. We see it all the time, unfortunately.
Billie Tarascio: Right. And I many, many women who are going through divorce, even if they have not been physically abused in the past fear that the situation and the circumstances will cause their.
Um, soon to be ex-husband their husband to hurt them. And why do they believe that?
Because it happens. Yes. And regardless of how Kim looks on social media, knowing that her husband is, has a mental illness, is feeling things very, very, very deeply and is hurt very, very deeply. You know, there's no doubt in my mind that she is in danger and a restraining order might just escalate it and responding might just escalate it.
And so personal security is probably the best she can [00:28:00] do and not everyone has that option.
Limor Mojdehiazad: Yeah. Great point. Great point. Yes. Court absolutely escalates everything in these situations. Even the custody. The custody stuff, right? It absolutely absolutely does. And when you think about high profile, high net worth individuals doing things behind the scenes, the protection, like you said, having personal security, that's better than a restraining order for her, for her, but the restraining order, you know, a lot of, a lot of times on the other end, we say, it's a paper trail, please go get it. I understand. Please go get a restraining order. We want to make sure we have a paper trail of what is happening.
And at a certain point I was, I was shocked. That Kim did not go in ex parte for custody or for a restraining order or for whatever. And then I thought, you know, maybe it's just because she has a handle on things, just like you said, with the [00:29:00] security, with the custody, with all of it. And I think that Trevor Noah, I think it was brought up a very good point that Kim Kardashians is fighting
to get people out of jail for being wrongfully convicted. A lot of those people are black. Does she really want to be responsible for putting a restraining order against a black father, a black man? So that blew my mind when Trevor Noah pointed that out, because I never thought about that.
Billie Tarascio: It's a great point.
And I have to think. I mean, I don't know these people to have to think that, you know, she loves her husband, understands him, sees him for who he is. And does not want to hurt him, you know, has, has lived with a bipolar troubled husband has worked to [00:30:00] deescalate and just wants the best friend. She doesn't want him in jail.
She wants them healthy. She wants them to behave well, but she wants him to move on, but she doesn't want him in jail. She doesn't want to put her kids father in jail. I think one of the best things that the restraining order can do is it can, it can stop someone from incessantly contacting. It can set boundaries that can help deescalate because many times couples will find themselves in a place where they'll just bombard the other one with feelings, setting some boundaries in the feelings and the communication is great.
And the other thing that I think is both of them should be having counselors that they're working with and communications people that are helping them communicate with each other. That would be a big
difference.
Limor Mojdehiazad: Absolutely. Absolutely. And you know, a lot of people who comment on my posts, [00:31:00] they're very upset to see someone so rich and powerful Kanye west, not taking advantage of this.
Medical care that other people don't even have access to professionals that people don't have access to. I mean, you and I know a lot of great co-parenting counselors, but the ones that they can afford are the ones we can only dream our clients would ever be able to even pay for one hour because we know they can work miracles.
Right. We know that, but some people don't even have access to that. So a lot of people are upset that, you know, if you have a mental illness do you have access to the best of the best to handle it? The best of the best? Why are you on social media doing this? And you brought up another great point, incessant text messages.
So when Kanye west says, she's not picking up on me, she's not answering me. I have to go to Instagram there. Then we know he's texting her, calling her, leaving her these voicemails. That would absolutely get you a [00:32:00] restraining order. I had a case where. One party was texting the other 300 times a day, 300 times a day.
And it was all within the same hour. Yeah.
Billie Tarascio: I don't know how that wouldn't disturb someone's
piece.
Limor Mojdehiazad: There we go, there we go. Yes. Yes.
Billie Tarascio: So you talked about Trevor Noah before we wrap up. Can you, I mean, he was very eloquent and he had a lot to say, but it was, there's so much there because. He spoke about the situation in a, from a very interesting and high level perspective with lessons for people.
So we're not talking about, you know, the gossip, the dish, the dirt, he had real insights that he was trying to share. Can you, um, talk about those.
Limor Mojdehiazad: Yeah. So, you know, the perspective that he was coming from was he has [00:33:00] seen his mother deal with an abuser. And I think that the story was that his mother was actually shot by her abuser.
She survived, but that's the perspective he was coming with. Right. So he talked about the fact that this is the mother of your children. You are family, you will always be family. You're also a very high profile person that a lot of people respect, but you are playing games and you need to stop playing these games because if someone like Kim Kardashian still has to deal with this.
Then society now is seeing that there is no running away from this type of stuff. No matter how much money you have, no matter where you come from, no matter where you're at now. We can't protect. And he was talking about protecting women cannot even protect women by [00:34:00] giving them everything right. And giving them even a partner that has everything and you Kanye West, or the prime example of that.
And why on earth are you the prime example for that? Because you have everything, you have everything and you are still coming at her from this low vibrational place. Right. And technically abusing her for what to get, where, why are you doing this? What is the point? But you are the prime example of, we really cannot protect women from these types of things.
And you are a prime example and he was disappointed right. In Kanye west for being that example. And he pointed out. People don't like Kim Kardashian . A majority of people do not like Kim Kardashian yet, but everyone empathizes with her because of this situation, you've gotten people from that point to not [00:35:00] even liking her to now empathizing with her because of your actions and you should be ashamed of your actions.
Billie Tarascio: Isn't that interesting. So even though most women could not identify with Kim Kardashian, did not see her as someone that they would empathize with or, or, or have anything in common with that is all changed now because Trevor Noah's talked about what we're witnessing is violence against women that plays out all day every day.
He talked about when he was a little boy and his mom went to the police station and the police asked her what she did to invoke the rage of her abusive, other either husband or boyfriend. And like, this is real. And, and here we get to see this. And so we talked about that perspective and then he also was a very compassionate to Kanye.
Limor Mojdehiazad: Yes, especially yes. In his response to him too. Yes. He
Billie Tarascio: was imploring him to get help [00:36:00] to stop. And he said that we, as a society should be concerned because. You never, I mean, coming, I didn't know that his mom had been shot, but like that's a real risk people feel.
Limor Mojdehiazad: Yes, yes, yes. And Kanye has access to whatever you want.
And he has these people who are, you know, I call them goons. They are so obsessed with Kanye west. I got messed up. I got people. People go from my tick, talk to my Instagram and they got different profiles just to say horrible things to me because they're obsessed with Kanye west. And all I do is present what Kanye west puts on social media.
Right?
Billie Tarascio: Right.
Limor Mojdehiazad: But they get mad at me.
Billie Tarascio: So you are not allowed to infringe. We have this constitutional right of free speech, which means we can post whatever we want on social media. However, there are these carve-outs for inciting violence. Yes, you are allowed [00:37:00] to ban speech. That is violent speech. And I wonder if we haven't, when we're calling on.
You know, decapitating P Davidson. I wonder if we haven't crossed that line.
Limor Mojdehiazad: That's a great point. And you know, Kanye now is no longer on the Grammy lineup, right? And a lot of people I've asked, I've asked my followers, what do you guys think about Coachella? Because I fear that Coachella, do you know anything about the festival to outdoor festival with thousands of thousands of people?
This is the first one. Since COVID everyone is excited to get out. Party listened to music, be in their own little world. And to have someone like Kanye west, who has also said, he's going to bring Trevor Scott onstage, Travis Scott onstage with him, you know, it kind of scares me because your ops, if he acts the way he has on social media, if he says any.
His followers [00:38:00] and those people who are tired and sweaty and not really thinking and maybe on drugs. Right. I don't have a good feeling about having him on stage at an event like that. Right.
Billie Tarascio: Like our society's already a little bit like on edge
Limor Mojdehiazad: and we don't want, we don't want another festival, uh, you know, um, whatever it is, you know, chaotic festival we want.
Kids and audiences to be able to go to these events and have a great time. And it's not about Kanye and his private life. It should be just about the music, but someone like that, he's a loose cannon. Right?
Billie Tarascio: Uh, final thoughts. What are your predictions on how this divorce plays out?
Limor Mojdehiazad: Yeah. So I would hope that Kim Kardashians, if this social media thing gets any worse, I would hope that she would go to court for custody because we know that Kanye is never going to sign off on sole [00:39:00] legal or sole physical to her.
We know that, but I think that that's in the best interest of the children. Um, but I do think that they're going to keep it private. I predict they'll keep it private and they will probably hopefully by the end of the year, have they full, full stipulated judgment that they came to together. Um, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him try to invalidate that prenup.
Why? I don't know. I have no idea why he would do that. Um, but he seems like someone that would just file something to file it. Right. Um, but if he has good counsel, which he does, he has the best of the best. Um, he wouldn't do something like that. I predict they'll keep it under wraps, but, and get it done by the end of the year.
Billie Tarascio: Yeah. That's optimistic. I hope that you were right. Thank you so much for coming on the podcast. If you all have liked this podcast, make sure to rate it, review it, find attorney Limor on social media. Is there any other way that people should contact? [00:40:00]
Limor Mojdehiazad: So social is lawyerlimor and no, let's start there.
They can, they can find me from there
Billie Tarascio: LawyerLimor. I said attorney, but it's a lawyer limor, um, yes. Contact her reach, reach out. And you do practice family law in the LA
area.
Limor Mojdehiazad: Yes. Exclusively family law.
Billie Tarascio: Wonderful. Thank you so much for coming on the show. I really appreciate it.
Limor Mojdehiazad: Thank you so much
Billie Tarascio: have a good day.